Go east, young CA
Martin Murray CA landed in Hong Kong through a series of unfortunate events, but it turned into the best decision of his life. More than three decades on and now an OBE, the Swire Pacific FD says business needs to move faster on climate


Go east,
young CA
Martin Murray CA landed in Hong Kong through a series of unfortunate events, but it turned into the best decision of his life. More than three decades on and now an OBE, the Swire Pacific FD says business needs to move faster on climate

Sometimes the wrong answer can produce the right outcome. This year Martin Murray CA received both an OBE for his services to charity and a Finance for the Future award in the Climate Leadership category. Yet none of this would have happened had he replied differently to a question about his aspirations when he joined Ernst & Young (now EY) permanently, following the successful completion of his CA training back in 1991.
Murray had been sitting with a group of friends while filling out a company questionnaire which asked about his ambitions. He flippantly wrote down that he wanted to work abroad without considering the consequences.
“One of the managers noticed and told me about this training job in Hong Kong,” recalls Murray. “I said ‘Oh no, that’s long term.’”
The manager sent him to London for an interview, thinking it would be a good experience for the young accountant. Murray didn’t get the job, which suited him just fine as he had no intention at that time of leaving Scotland. But the Glasgow office were keen for him to fulfil his (non-existent) ambition, so they created a 12-month secondment role for Murray. “I got summoned into a room by the partner, who said, ‘Congratulations, you got the job in Hong Kong.’”
It turned out to be an extraordinary blessing in disguise, as this all happened at the dawn of the 1990s, which was a bleak time for the Scottish economy.
“You don’t have to change the world for sustainability, you just have to integrate it into things we’ve been doing for centuries in accounting, which is simply a way of measuring what you’re trying to achieve”
“The UK was going through a huge recession,” says Murray. “I would be doing audits on industrial estates in the middle of Scottish winters. It’s cold, it’s damp and it’s dark. Then suddenly I found myself in Hong Kong, which was booming – a 24/7 party city that is amazing when you’re a young expat.”
So Murray’s plans changed again and the Hong Kong job became a permanent one, at least until his mother, on a visit to the city state, inadvertently told his manager that her son wanted to find a new job. By a stroke of luck, it turned out that his mother was best friends with the sister of Niall Lothian CA, who was shortly to become ICAS President.
“Niall gave me a call,” says Murray. “He was looking for ICAS to get a footprint in Hong Kong. He asked me if he could help and what would I like to do. I said I was trying to get back into corporate and do training.”
Lothian had experience in this field, having been a popular trainer doing “finance for non-finance people” at Swire, an import-export business founded in Liverpool in 1816. It is now a multi-billion-pound operation employing more than 100,000 people worldwide in various subsidiaries.
Green shoots
And so, in 1995, Murray joined Swire. He spent a decade as CFO of the Cathay Pacific airline, which is owned by Swire, and since 2011 has been FD of the conglomerate's publicly quoted arm, Swire Pacific, in which his role was increased to include responsibility for its ESG (environmental, social, governance) strategy and sustainable development office since 2014.
Murray long ago began to recognise that sustainability would become integral to the group’s long-term growth. “Also, I’m always interested in looking at things from a young adult’s perspective,” he says. “As a member of senior management I realised that when I spoke to new graduates, they would all read the sustainability report, but none of them read the annual accounts.”
He subsequently became the company’s representative on Accounting for Sustainability, and a member of the World Business Council for Sustainable Development (WBCSD), which is chaired by Peter Bakker, the man who famously said “accountants will save the world”.
Sometimes the wrong answer can produce the right outcome. This year Martin Murray CA received both an OBE for his services to charity and a Finance for the Future award in the Climate Leadership category. Yet none of this would have happened had he replied differently to a question about his aspirations when he joined Ernst & Young (now EY) permanently, following the successful completion of his CA training back in 1991.
Murray had been sitting with a group of friends while filling out a company questionnaire which asked about his ambitions. He flippantly wrote down that he wanted to work abroad without considering the consequences.
“One of the managers noticed and told me about this training job in Hong Kong,” recalls Murray. “I said ‘Oh no, that’s long term.’”
The manager sent him to London for an interview, thinking it would be a good experience for the young accountant. Murray didn’t get the job, which suited him just fine as he had no intention at that time of leaving Scotland. But the Glasgow office were keen for him to fulfil his (non-existent) ambition, so they created a 12-month secondment role for Murray. “I got summoned into a room by the partner, who said, ‘Congratulations, you got the job in Hong Kong.’”
It turned out to be an extraordinary blessing in disguise, as this all happened at the dawn of the 1990s, which was a bleak time for the Scottish economy.
“You don’t have to change the world for sustainability, you just have to integrate it into things we’ve been doing for centuries in accounting, which is simply a way of measuring what you’re trying to achieve”
“The UK was going through a huge recession,” says Murray. “I would be doing audits on industrial estates in the middle of Scottish winters. It’s cold, it’s damp and it’s dark. Then suddenly I found myself in Hong Kong, which was booming – a 24/7 party city that is amazing when you’re a young expat.”
So Murray’s plans changed again and the Hong Kong job became a permanent one, at least until his mother, on a visit to the city state, inadvertently told his manager that her son wanted to find a new job. By a stroke of luck, it turned out that his mother was best friends with the sister of Niall Lothian CA, who was shortly to become ICAS President.
“Niall gave me a call,” says Murray. “He was looking for ICAS to get a footprint in Hong Kong. He asked me if he could help and what would I like to do. I said I was trying to get back into corporate and do training.”
Lothian had experience in this field, having been a popular trainer doing “finance for non-finance people” at Swire, an import-export business founded in Liverpool in 1816. It is now a multi-billion-pound operation employing more than 100,000 people worldwide in various subsidiaries.
Green shoots
And so, in 1995, Murray joined Swire. He spent a decade as CFO of the Cathay Pacific airline, which is owned by Swire, and since 2011 has been FD of the conglomerate's publicly quoted arm, Swire Pacific, in which his role was increased to include responsibility for its ESG (environmental, social, governance) strategy and sustainable development office since 2014.
Murray long ago began to recognise that sustainability would become integral to the group’s long-term growth. “Also, I’m always interested in looking at things from a young adult’s perspective,” he says. “As a member of senior management I realised that when I spoke to new graduates, they would all read the sustainability report, but none of them read the annual accounts.”
He subsequently became the company’s representative on Accounting for Sustainability, and a member of the World Business Council for Sustainable Development (WBCSD), which is chaired by Peter Bakker, the man who famously said “accountants will save the world”.
Hong Kong
Hong Kong
Martin Murray CA receives his Finance for the Future award
Martin Murray CA receives his Finance for the Future award
Billy Connolly, centre, and Doddie Weir, left, with former Scotland rugby captain Andy Nicol, right
Billy Connolly, centre, and Doddie Weir, left, with former Scotland rugby captain Andy Nicol, right
Murray, far left, with full line-up of Finance for the Future winners
Murray, far left, with full line-up of Finance for the Future winners
Murray received an OBE for his work with the Indochina Starfish Foundation, which provides access to education, healthcare and sport in Cambodia
Murray received an OBE for his work with the Indochina Starfish Foundation, which provides access to education, healthcare and sport in Cambodia
Hong Kong
Hong Kong
Martin Murray CA receives his Finance for the Future award
Martin Murray CA receives his Finance for the Future award
Billy Connolly, centre, and Doddie Weir, left, with former Scotland rugby captain Andy Nicol, right
Billy Connolly, centre, and Doddie Weir, left, with former Scotland rugby captain Andy Nicol, right
Murray, far left, with full line-up of Finance for the Future winners
Murray, far left, with full line-up of Finance for the Future winners
Murray received an OBE for his work with the Indochina Starfish Foundation, which provides access to education, healthcare and sport in Cambodia
Murray received an OBE for his work with the Indochina Starfish Foundation, which provides access to education, healthcare and sport in Cambodia
He began attending WBSCD conferences. “They had a very simple message, that 1.5°C [increase in average temperatures] has been broken and if global warming increases by 2.7°C before the end of the century we’re in a crisis. You can no longer argue with the science. So we need to accelerate and get things done,” he says.
“I’m very much focused on outcomes and execution. We needed corporates to start picking up the pace. I started to think about how we can speed up, and what we are doing wrong.”
Murray, who took up his current position in April 2024, says the introduction of the first two global sustainability standards, IFRS S1 and S2, has been “massive” in addressing how companies produce their public reports. He is even considering moving the sustainability target disclosures to the annual report so that a consistent framework and level of materiality can be ensured.
“For example, the Hong Kong stock exchanges now say you must produce your sustainability report at the same time as your annual report and release them together, because the sustainability disclosures piece is just as important.”
Prior to that, he says, the sustainability development office would issue its own report. Murray wasn’t a fan of that approach, to put it mildly, because issues that affect sustainability will inevitably also affect finance.
“If I had my time again, I’d move to Vietnam, Cambodia or Indonesia… There’s unanimous agreement that the growth will come from south-east Asia”
"If you really want to accelerate on climate, you have to integrate it into your business. The risk team, the finance team, the procurement team and the C-suite all have to understand this – and that the CFO is integral and can make a big, big difference." he says.
Murray also argues that for sustainability reporting you simply have to integrate what people have been doing for centuries in accounting which, he says, “is simply a way of measuring what you’re trying achieve”.
Less haste, more speed
Is Murray concerned or frustrated by recent stories of corporations rowing back on their climate commitments? He is of the view that corporations still recognise the threat posed by climate change but were being asked to do too much too quickly. While social issues are an integral part of sustainability, there has been particular push back on some specifics, such as targets for the make-up of a workforce.
“If you take on too much, you just get caught up in the muddle of disclosures and compliance. It becomes death by regulation,” he says.
Murray is also critical of “green financing” and says: “If you try to do things properly, it can be much harder to get green financing than someone who’s polluting, but making progress [on reducing emissions] even when that progress is a very slow burn.”
He was recently in London to receive his Finance of the Future award in the category of Climate Leadership, where he expressed his views on a range of issues, including green finance and the need for corporations to understand the risk natural events caused by climate breakdown pose to their supply chains. He also stressed that, for Swire, his priority is to “ensure that they focus on driving long-term sustainable shareholder value by listening to and knowing the concerns of major stakeholders”.
Speaking to CA magazine, a few weeks after the event, he’s insistent that businesses, including SMEs, must not feel overwhelmed by the prospect of sustainability reporting and that disclosures do not become a burden. He believes there are simple things that any company can do to embed sustainability into its company culture (see panel).
The Finance for the Future award was his second honour of the year, the first having come after a mysterious email – of a kind that could make you fear what chaos might be unleashed by following the instructions.
“[The email] was telling me that I was about to receive good news and I needed to dial a number. I looked at my wife and said, ‘Is this for real?’”
But the phone number he was instructed to call turned out to be the British Consulate-General in Hong Kong. “The man at the other end of the phone said I had been nominated for an award and that I might not get it, but if I would like to receive it then would I also like to fill out a form?”
Murray is a shining example of a CA who is applying his experience and position to make a positive impact. As it transpired the honour, an OBE, was in recognition of his charity work, particularly in Cambodia with the Indochina Starfish Foundation.
Martin Murray’s four-point plan to embed sustainability into a company’s culture
● Set clear sustainability goals aligned with company values.
● Engage with sustainability networks and resources (eg Accounting for Sustainability, WBSCD and the UN Global Compact) – they can provide valuable insights and guidance.
● Address potential objections by highlighting the financial benefits of sustainability, showcasing successful case studies to help build internal support.
● And finally, make the most of reporting tools and frameworks to track progress and communicate achievements transparently.
This was taken from Martin Murray’s blog for Accounting for Sustainability in January. Read the piece in full here
“In Cambodia, there’s no social services, so if you can’t afford to go to school, can’t afford a uniform, you just don’t get an education. Cambodia is near Hong Kong, so you can go there and see very, very quickly the tangible difference you make by giving kids an education. And that charity has just grown and grown.”
To help raise money for the charity he would often organise a fundraising event where he would book a famous sports star as a guest speaker. On one occasion he approached John Jeffrey, a Scottish rugby legend. “But he said the man you want is Doddie Weir. So I phoned Doddie, who had recently self-diagnosed with motor-neurone disease, but had not yet gone public. Both he and his wife needed a break, so he came out to Hong Kong, having not spoken to a doctor and not knowing for certain whether anything was seriously wrong. He was amazing and took our charity fundraising to a new level.”
Murray now runs the Hong Kong operation for Weir’s My Name’5 Doddie Foundation, which he set up in 2017. “In 2019, we wrote to Billy Connolly to take part in an event, because his mother died of the disease. Billy hadn’t been to Hong Kong for 20 years, but immediately said he wanted to do it. We believe it was his last live performance on stage,” says Murray.
Connolly had himself been diagnosed with Parkinson’s some years earlier and Weir – who would die three years later, aged just 52 – was also in attendance on the night. “It was just one of those surreal, extraordinary moments,” says Murray, “when you’ve got two huge personalities who are clearly suffering, but all they want to do is show that you live for the day, so let’s have fun and just enjoy ourselves.”
Going for growth
By any measure, Murray has had an extraordinary life and career. So what advice would he give to a young CA starting out? Perhaps not surprisingly, working abroad features, alongside… “Keep it simple. Cash is king. Always apply common sense. Have fun in what you do, don’t get too serious about anything. The CA qualification is a fantastic, knowledge base to have and to understand how business works, and how process works.
“Don’t be afraid of leaving your pasture. If I had my time again, I’d be moving to Vietnam or Cambodia or Indonesia and living the dream I had in Hong Kong. If you look at the figures, there’s unanimous agreement that the growth will come from south-east Asia, and I believe it’s always more fun working in a growth economy than one that is shrinking.
“And never forget that even in the moments when you may question your own ability, if you’re a CA you have a qualification that is recognised and respected around the world.”
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